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John Lennon - Rock 'N' Roll Sessions (Disc 2)

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Scan submitted/created by [Studio Proz,]
HQ Scans:
Publisher: Voxx
Reference :VOXX 0002/02
Date :2000
Made In :
Quality :
Booklet & packaging :
Total duration: 67:32

Comments
Madinger/Easter:
A sixty minute cassette, reportedly from the collection of guitarist Jesse Ed Davis, consists of one side of "Sunnyview Rehearsals", the other side of Record Plant monitor mixes for the Rock 'N' Roll LP. Highlights of this material was first bootlegged in 1986 as The May Pang Tapes (Beetle Records LEN4080) A subsequent release, You Should A Been There (which superseded the Beetle LP), appeared later in the year and included material from the 1973 Spector sessions as well. Highlights of the rehearsals and monitor mixes were released on CD by Orange Records in 1994 as The May Pang Tapes, which simply lifted excerpts from a worn copy of the You Should A Been There LP - at the wrong speed to boot. Six years later, Voxx released the material for the first time on CD from a tape source, but still sounding inferior to the You Should A Been There 2LP set. This CD issue includes all of the available material, but running too fast, while You Should A Been There, runs considerably slow. As the Voxx set appears to have been treated with excessive noise reduction, the LP version is still preferable. Unfortunately, all of these releases presented the material in an incorrect running order, placing the monitor mixes in between the rehearsal takes.

Liner notes:
Disc two features various outtakes, demos and rough mixes from the 73-74 sessions. Bonus tracks include The Raw Stereo take of "Stand By Me" recorded for the Old Grey Whistle Test, along with the finished takes. We have also included the complete 3 songs recorded for the Salute to Sir Lew Grade TV specia . John's last ever Live performance.

Rock 'N' Roll (The Real Story)

The Roots of this story date back to The Beatles Abbey Road album when John wrote "Come Together" and pinched a line from Chuck Berry's "You Can't Catch Me" This caused Moris levy, the owner of Big Seven Inc. and held the copyrights to the Berry song to sue John and Apple Records over copyright infringement. An out of court settlement was reached October 12, 1975, when Lennon agreed to record three songs off Levy's catalogue for his (next) album.

Lennon's domestic problems at this time are well documented, so we will just refresh your memory by saying it was at this time period that John Separated from Yoko Ono and left with May Pang and headed to the west coast. Shortly after arriving in tos Angeles, John contacted Phil Spector about the possibility of recording some of his favorite Rock and Roll songs. Lennon and May Pang meet Phil at his Mansion to pitch the Oldies album. Phil agreed to produce the IP, but only after John agreed to let him have Total control over the project, an agreement Lennon would soon regret. The October 1973 sessions began at the famous A&M Studios located off LA Brea Ave in los Angeles. These studios would also be used by one George Harrison during rehearsals for his 1974 US tour. The Lennon/Spector sessions went chaotic from the very start. Phil would rehearse the backup band for several hours waiting for the right feel(the basis for his sound) Lennon | and the musicians grew very impatient. John hurting from the break up with Yoko, went mad on booze destroying a good ? number of takes.(Listen to the first two tracks on disc one) John was so ripped, he became violent several times and had to be restrained by his friend and drummer Jim Keltner. The Final straw happened when Spector fired a gun so near John's ears he was in absolute horror. At this point A&M Studios got fed up with the ruckus and duly ejected both John and Phil and the sessions from their property,

At this point, the sessions moved over to Record Plant West, but not for long! Lennon expected the sessions to continue, but spector disappeared and along with him alt the session tapes. When John finally got a hold of Phil (no easy task) Spector told John the tapes were connected to Watergate and only he could decode them! The sessions were over. g: John became depressed at the collapse of the sessions and went on various drinking binges with friend Hairy Nillson. John t finally decided he needed to do something constructive during this time, and went on to produce Harry's Pussy Cats LP. Finally John sobered up and flew back to New York to commence work on Wall And Bridges. At this point, Spector coughed up the Rock 'N' Roll tapes. John Played the Tapes during breaks at the Wall And Bridges sessions and was disgusted at what he heard, feeling the recordings were sub par. John decided the best thing to do was just continue with His current recording, leaving the Rock 'N' Roll tapes to gather dust. Later in 1974 Wall And Bridges was released to critical acclaim.

Morris Levy was angry about John's failure to include three Levy songs on Wall And Bridges, which Levy felt was a violation of their "Come Together" settlement. Levy requested a meeting with Lennon and the two meet on October 8, 1974. John apologized for what happened and in the mist of this, levy proposed the Oldies Album be completed and offered to market the album through mail and TV ads.

John expressed interest in this for several reasons, one, he felt the oldies album was no longer that marketable and disgusted with EM! wanted to issue the album using a different means of distribution and marketing. No written agreement was made, but Lennon gave Levy the impression it could be done.
John believed that he had the right to issue any material without EMFS approval if done through mail order. Lennon became friendly with Levy and began to rehearse the Wall And Bridges band at his up state New York farm. John discussed the marketing idea with his attorney who then pitched it to EMl. EMI was none to happy to hear about all this! Meanwhile John finished up the Recordings at The Record Plant East, and gave a rough copy to Levy. With no authorization and John informing him that EMI/APPLE Would be issuing the LP themselves, Levy went ahead and rush-released the tape he had and called it "ROOTS"
All of this lead to Levy suing John, stating Lennon broke the 1974 agreement to issue the record through him. Lennon was
also being sued over the failure to include three songs from Levy's publishing company on Rock 'n1 Roll. Only two songs
appeared , "Ya Ya" and "You Can't Catch Me" the third "Angel Baby" was not included on the Apple release. Levy also
demanded lost royalty payments from Lennon claiming the Apple release hurt his own release, and felt leaving out "Angel
Baby" cost him thousands in potential cover versions that might have been inspired by the Lennon cover.

Lennon in turn felt there was no agreement for Levy to issue the record, and because of Roots, he suffered a loss of record
sales due to having to rush release the LP to combat Levy's Roots LP. John also claimed to have lost money by lowering the
cost of Rock 'N' Roll to compete with Roots, And also argued the Roots cover looked tacky and both the, artwork and sound
quality hurt his reputation.

The American courts largely aped with Lennon. John was awarded
$66,000 for lost sales and 10 cents per Rock 'N' Roll
album sold worldwide making this a grand total of 5103,000. Another court later reduced the fee to $40,260. John was also
awarded $43,700 for lost revenue because of the Roots
LP(The figure was later reduced to $14,567) $35,000 for
compensatory damages over a loss of reputation and
$10,000 for punitive damages of which was later reversed in
the appeals court.

Levy was awarded $6,795.00, for John did breach the
original 1973 agreement by failing to release three Levy
owned songs on Wall And Bridges. The final outcome: John
was awarded $88,912.96, Levy $6,795.

Personally, Lennon's reputation was not damaged by the Roots LP, and it is believed by historians that his public feud with Paul McCartney, the 1970 Rolling Stone interview and his antics with Yoko Ono hurt him far more than Roots ever could.

But now it's time to take a break and listen to what is in store for you.

(transcription by Tilleul)

Core collection    Track identified    Version validated    Lyrics available    Version details available    Audio excerpt available    Participants list available   
1.
You Can't Catch Me(Berry)
3:35
Song
Identified
Version validated
Rough Mix
1973
John Lennon
2.
Bony Moronie(Williams)
4:00
Song
Identified
Version validated
Version details available
Rough Mix
1973
John Lennon
Slower tempo, with tapped count-in.
3.
Angel Baby(Hamlin/Ponci)
3:08
Song
Identified
Version validated
Regular
Roots
1973
John Lennon
Original "Roots" version
4.
Be My Baby(Greenwich/Barry/Spector)
4:33
Song
Identified
Version validated
Version details available
Regular
Roots
1973
John Lennon
This version was officially released, although it was not authorised by EMI, on the "Roots" LP.
Original "Roots" version
5.
Here We Go Again(Lennon/Spector)
2:59
Song
Identified
Version validated
Version details available
Demo
Take 2 - Acoustic
Oct 1973
John Lennon
"Here we go again, again..."
Start marred by voiceover on many versions
6.
Here We Go Again(Lennon/Spector)
4:52
Song
Identified
Version validated
Studio Outtake
1973
John Lennon
Alt. take
7.
My Baby Left Me(Crudup)
3:49
Song
Identified
Version validated
Studio Outtake
1973
John Lennon
AKA "Since My Baby Left Me"

Alt. take
8.
To Know Her Is To Love Her(Spector)
4:38
Song
Identified
Version validated
Studio Outtake
1973
John Lennon
Alt. take
9.
Angel Baby(Hamlin/Ponci)
3:43
Song
Identified
Version validated
Version details available
Regular
1973
John Lennon
Edit of the "Roots" version. Artificially extended.
Extended version (Menlove Ave).
10.
Be My Baby(Greenwich/Barry/Spector)
5:52
Song
Identified
Version validated
Rough Mix
1973
John Lennon
alt. mix/vocal
11.
Sweet Little Sixteen(Berry)
4:21
Song
Identified
Version validated
Rough Mix
1973
John Lennon
12.
Peggy Sue(Holly/Allison/Petty)
2:09
Song
Identified
Version validated
Rough Mix
Oct 1974
John Lennon
13.
Stand By Me(King/Leiber/Stoller)
4:11
Song
Version validated
Take 1
Old Grey Whistle Test
Mar 1975
John Lennon
Raw stereo take for "Old Grey Whistle Test" (is it ?)
14.
Stand By Me(King/Leiber/Stoller)
3:47
Song
Version validated
TV
Old Grey Whistle Test - Broadcast
18 Mar 1975
TV1975.03.18.01
John Lennon
Old Grey Whistle Test broadcast (is it ?)
15.
Slippin' And Slidin'(Penniman/Bocage/Collins/Smith)
2:22
Song
Version validated
Version details available
TV
Old Grey Whistle Test - Raw Take
Mar 1975
John Lennon
Includes count-in.
Is this the Old Grey Whistle Test broadcast or the raw-take with count-in as found on Orange's Miscellaneous tracks ?
16.
Slippin' And Slidin'(Penniman/Bocage/Collins/Smith)
2:37
Song
Version validated
TV
Salute To Sir Lew Grade - Audience Recording
18 Apr 1975
John Lennon
Salute To Sir Lew Grade
17.
Stand By Me(King/Leiber/Stoller)
3:37
Song
Version validated
Version details available
TV
Salute To Sir Lew Grade - Audience Recording
18 Apr 1975
John Lennon
This song was not broadcast and survived thanks to an audience recording.
Salute To Sir Lew Grade
18.
Imagine(Lennon)
3:19
Song
Version validated
TV
Salute To Sir Lew Grade - Audience Recording
18 Apr 1975
John Lennon
Salute To Sir Lew Grade
Core collection    Track identified    Version validated    Lyrics available    Version details available    Audio excerpt available    Participants list available   


Song Song Studio chat Studio chat
TV/Radio chat/jingle TV/Radio chat/jingle Interview Interview
Cover by another artist Cover by another artist Film Music/Orchestral Film music/orchestral
Concert intro/announcement Concert intro/announcement Advertising Advertising
Song by another artist Song by another artist Medley title Medley title
Book chapter Book chapter
Other type of track Other


Reviews

Review by: Gary, gbeegle@frontiernet.netOn 26 Aug 2000 at 12:22 CEST
This is a great 3 Cd anthology of John's "Rock & roll sessions".Lets review the highlights of each disc.First on disc #1.Track #3 "Just Because".This is the full blown drunken version,and it is great.It just shows what a state John was in during his "Lost weekend" away from Yoko.This version would never be released by Capital or apple on a commercial release,so it is wonderful to have it here.Also on disc one,is what we have refered to in the past as, "The May Pang tapes".The sound on that CD was terrible,but at that time it was the only available source for some of those songs.Now on "rock & Roll Sessions" we have Jesse Ed Davis' tape as the source tape and the quality is much better as well as more complete.These were the rehearsal sessions and I understand they took place in Morris levy's barn in Upstate N.Y.,not far from my home,which makes this a cool CD for me to have.Disc #2 has a number of alternate versions and rough mixes.Some very nice versions are on this disc.A couple of my favorites are track #11 "Be My Baby" and #12 "Peggy Sue".Also,this disc has the performance from the "old grey whistle test" broadcast.The sound is excellent on these songs also and I particularly like the rough stereo take of "Stand by Me" (track #13).The final 3 tracks are from Johns last public appearance,which was "Salute to Sir lew Grade".He performed "Imagine" this evening,and he dedicated the song to "Sir Lew and my good friend Yoko".In this version of "Imagine" he changed the words slightly to "... no immigration too".So at this point he was still being dogged by Nixon and the Immigration department who was trying to railroad him out of the country.The Sir Lew performances are from an audience tape I believe as you can hear some background noise,but these songs are still much clearer than they appear on "Miscellaneous Tracks".On to Disc #3.This is a radio appearance John made on WNEW radio here in New York with Scott Muni in 1975,to promote the release of the Rock n' Roll album.The disc features John talking about each track,which is followed by the "ROOTS" version of the song.A couple ROOTS versions also appear on disc #2,giving us the complete ROOTS album in excellent sound.Back to disc #3 however,I have a warm spot in my heart for this radio program,because I actually remember hearing this on the radio back in '75 when John appeared.The entire program was about 3 hours long,and it was great.I would be interested in knowing if there is a bootleg around of the complete WNEW appearance.That is my only complaint with this set.Although it is great to have this edited radio appearance,I'd love to have the complete radio appearance unedited,because this third disc in "R & R seesions" brings back a lot of found memories for me.Towards the end of the disc,John announces to the world for the first time,that he and Yoko have gotten back together.This is just a wonderful set.By the way,my set is on the FIRE POWER label,which I guess is the first knock-off of the VOXX set already.I have one other FIRE POWER release of John's called "John Lennon Anthology: Weybridge" and the sound quality on that too is excellent.Back to Rock & roll however,I give this fantastic 3 CD set a 10 rating because I think it is that good.There is enough stuff here to please any Lennon fan,and as I stated at the beginning of this review,just having the drunken version of "Just Because" is worth the cost of the set.It is a great anthology of the Rock n' Roll sessions,get it if you can!!!
Review by: MrkitesbenefitsOn 10 Aug 2002 at 14:01 CEST
Fantastic!
Review by: kurtmaxOn 20 Apr 2004 at 04:19 CEST
A great set. I take points off for sound quality (but the content is very good). Some raunch X rated lyrics pop up here and there.
Review by: taucherOn 13 Oct 2011 at 13:34 CEST


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Filename: voxx0202
Originally filled by: François Vander Linden, beatleg@easynet.be
Date of creation: 06 Oct 2001 23:59:59
Last filled by: tilleul
Last Revision Date : 27 Dec 2001 14:25:32
Online on : 31 Dec 2001
Type of media: Bootleg CD
Rock 'N' Roll Sessions
ROCK 'N' ROLL SESSIONS (DISC 1)
ROCK 'N' ROLL SESSIONS (DISC 2)
ROCK 'N' ROLL SESSIONS (DISC 3)


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